From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Displaying the state of isearch toggles [was Re: ASCII-folded search] Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:06:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83616544o3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h9pq18ae.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a8vh5316.fsf@gnu.org> <9da72b40-0236-4edd-983e-90c54ca7f827@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435676781 16874 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2015 15:06:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, stephen@xemacs.org, juri@linkov.net To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 30 17:06:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9x6x-0001hr-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:06:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47443 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9x6w-0001rx-Jr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:06:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60076) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9x6t-0001rs-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9x6o-0004sA-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:50484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9x6n-0004rn-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NQR00800J895I00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:08:44 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NQR0087HJEKZM00@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:08:44 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <9da72b40-0236-4edd-983e-90c54ca7f827@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187677 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:39:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, > stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > But such a dialog box should not be the only way to change > individual attribute values. I still don't understand why not. We do use something similar in Customize buffers. > That can be done quickly using toggle commands and/or toggle menu > items. How is menu different from a dialog (to which you objected, AFAIU)? > Being able to change multiple search attributes at once, as in > a dialog box is useful. So is being able to quickly change any > of them individually. The dialog doesn't require that you change all of them, so I don't see any contradiction. > When you say "non-orthogonal", presumably you are suggesting that > changing one attribute automatically either changes some others > or restricts some others. Which such search attributes did you > have in mind? Searching for regexps, words, and symbols are at least somewhat exclusive. Similarly the various folding options.