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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Better handling of window margins
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:34:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83610egj09.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5661C5AE.8010702@gmx.at>

> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 17:56:14 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
>  > I agree.  But if we only care about showing the same buffer case, then
>  > we do really need to consider only the width of the text area when we
>  > decide whether to split horizontally or vertically, right?  Moreover,
>  > even when another buffer is shown in one of the two windows, the
>  > window that continues to display the original buffer should still have
>  > reasonable width of its text area, right?  And the only way to
>  > guarantee the latter is to consider the width of only the text area,
>  > excluding the margins.
> 
> I miss you here.  This discussion started with the problem that while
> modes are able to readjust their margins when a window is split,
> ‘split-window-sensibly’ won't split the window because it looks only at
> the width of the text area.  C-x 3 would fail in the same manner because
> it would compare ‘window-min-width’ (whose "value has to accommodate two
> text columns as well as margins, fringes, a scroll bar and a right
> divider, if present") with a text only area.

"C-x 3" should compare window-min-width with the size of the text area
only.

>  >>   > We are still talking about splitting windows here, right?
>  >>
>  >> And about resizing windows, right?
>  >
>  > I wasn't aware that resizing windows was part of the use cases
>  > considered by this discussion.  How is it relevant?  What decisions
>  > during resizing depend on the margins?
> 
> When I split a window I have to shrink the original one.  When I have
> two side by side window and want to enlarge one of them I have to shrink
> the other one.  So we have to solve the same problem in both cases.

What problem is that?

The problem we need to solve in the split-window case is whether to
split vertically or horizontally.  There's no such problem when
resizing a window.

If you mean the problem when to refuse the resize because the window
is too small, then yes, it should also look at the size of the text
area alone.




  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-04 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-01 21:28 Better handling of window margins Joost Kremers
2015-12-02  8:23 ` martin rudalics
2015-12-02 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 17:43   ` martin rudalics
2015-12-02 17:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 18:11       ` martin rudalics
2015-12-03  6:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-03 18:16           ` martin rudalics
2015-12-03 20:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-03 20:43               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04  8:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 13:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04 14:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 17:30                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04 18:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 20:55                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-04 21:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 21:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-05  7:56                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-05 15:17                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-05 15:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-06  4:27                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-06  5:02                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-06 16:10                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-06 20:24                                             ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-07  3:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07 10:35                                                 ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-07 16:39                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07  0:29                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 16:24                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07 17:35                                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 17:38                                                   ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-07 17:41                                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 17:50                                                       ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-07 17:36                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-07 17:39                                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-12-07 18:42                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-07 19:14                                                       ` John Wiegley
2015-12-04  8:07               ` martin rudalics
2015-12-04  9:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 10:21                   ` martin rudalics
2015-12-04 15:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 16:56                       ` martin rudalics
2015-12-04 18:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-12-04 19:23                           ` martin rudalics
2015-12-02 19:52       ` Joost Kremers
2015-12-03  7:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 19:55   ` Joost Kremers
2015-12-03  7:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 12:49 ` John Wiegley

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