From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Chinese characters support Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:43:56 +0300 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8361-Sat10May2003214356+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <841xz6q3nc.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <20030511.011725.71089640.acmuller@gol.com> <84he8292dt.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <20030511.023149.92589622.acmuller@gol.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052592473 22557 80.91.224.249 (10 May 2003 18:47:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 10 20:47:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19EZNv-0005rf-00 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 20:47:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EZP4-0008Fk-03 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EZOr-00089U-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:48:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EZOf-00080v-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:48:37 -0400 Original-Received: from gandalf.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EZOY-0007hO-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:48:30 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretsky (cable-130-147.inter.net.il [213.8.130.147]) by gandalf.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AOI52950; Sat, 10 May 2003 21:47:36 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <20030511.023149.92589622.acmuller@gol.com> (message from Charles Muller on Sun, 11 May 2003 02:31:49 +0900 (JST)) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9543 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9543 > Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 02:31:49 +0900 (JST) > From: Charles Muller > > the HELLO file > is not a utf-8 file. It is also not a form of JIS or other East Asian > encoding, so the fact that one can display multilingual scripts by opening > that file does not mean that they will be able to display them in Big5, JIS, > or whatever. It does demonstrate that Emacs can display, read, and write Chinese characters, Japanese characters, and other characters. UTF-8 is not the only way to dio that, and there's lots of other non-trivial machinery, bot inside Emacs and outside it, that should be set up correctly for it to be able to display etc/HELLO, even without UTF-8. > If you check the archives for "utf-8+cjk", you will see that we have had a few > threads in the past year that dealt with problems trying to display CJK and > other international scripts, in which the advice was given to look at the > Hello file. If you read the archives of this forum (and of gnu.emacs.bug), you will see that it's been recommended _a_lot_. > It is not my purpose to badmouth Emacs handling of Unicode. However, you've actually done precisely that.