From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering Unicode characters Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:25:47 +0200 Message-ID: <8360y2t48k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83twmkkv16.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454761594 27082 80.91.229.3 (6 Feb 2016 12:26:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 12:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Helmut Eller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 06 13:26:28 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aS1wZ-00049N-SU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 13:26:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53282 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aS1wZ-0000py-3n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 07:26:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44567) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aS1wL-0000pI-Es for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 07:26:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aS1wI-0000ez-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 07:26:13 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35673) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aS1wI-0000ev-Mg; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 07:26:10 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2777 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aS1wH-0008WF-UR; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 07:26:10 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Helmut Eller on Sat, 06 Feb 2016 12:56:14 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199408 Archived-At: > From: Helmut Eller > Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 12:56:14 +0100 > > On Tue, Jan 26 2016, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > Would someone please implement this? > > Here is my shot at this. Load the attached file and start the browser > with "M-x ubb-browse". That displays the characters of the "Basic Latin" > block. From there it's probably the easiest to use the menu to explore > the available commands. > > I defined a sets of characters for some languages by looking at > Wikipedia. This would obviously need more work by people who are > familiar with those languages. > > The file is also available at: https://github.com/ellerh/ubb Thanks, I think this is very good. One aspect where some improvement is probably needed is when displaying large ranges of characters. For example, select "Scripts->symbol" from the "Character-Browser" menu -- this displays all the punctuation characters defined by Unicode. You get 160 lines that display something like 4K characters, which takes a long time to display (because Emacs looks for a suitable font), and somewhat hard to view. Maybe we should display with those +/- widgets that allow showing and hiding portions of the characters, so that each 256 characters could be shown or hidden separately? Also, I think unassigned codepoints should not be shown, and the same for Surrogates and Private-Area codepoints. They will never yield anything but those rectangles with a codepoint in hex inside them. Finally, I think a command to insert the character at point into another buffer would be a good addition. Thanks again for working on this.