From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> To: rms@gnu.org Cc: larsi@gnus.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:05:19 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <8360xinj5s.fsf@gnu.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <E1aXTNV-00059T-Aw@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:44:45 -0500) > From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> > CC: larsi@gnus.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:44:45 -0500 > > > > It seems to me that we're considering using the Unicode decomposition > > > rules for "variant detection" because it's what we have. > > > No, we use decompositions because that's how equivalent strings are to > > be compared and mapped/folded. > > Please let's drop the idea of determining the folding behavior > automatically from something in Unicide. It is too rigid. We don't determine the behavior from Unicode. We use the Unicode data to implement the behavior we consider useful. > Users want many different folding behaviors. Instead of insisting on > a particular set of equivalences, let's make it easy for users to > specify the foldings they want. Whatever additional behavior and nuances the users want, we can implement it regardless of the Unicode data we use for the basic folding (once we figure out what is it that they want and how to implement that best). There's no dichotomy here.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-21 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 263+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-09 17:26 On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 17:39 ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2016-02-09 17:54 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-10 0:49 ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2016-02-10 2:20 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-10 3:01 ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2016-02-10 9:55 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-10 18:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 19:23 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-09 16:43 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 17:10 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 18:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-09 19:54 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 1:58 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 21:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 2:18 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-10 2:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 2:56 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-10 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 21:17 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-11 3:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 22:36 ` Per Starbäck
2016-02-13 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 10:10 ` Markus Triska
2016-02-13 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 16:46 ` joakim
2016-02-11 0:54 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-11 1:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 0:50 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-12 1:50 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 7:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 8:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 10:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 11:11 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-12 18:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 18:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 19:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 23:57 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-13 0:06 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-13 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-13 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-18 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 5:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-19 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 9:22 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-19 10:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 10:51 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-19 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 13:37 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-19 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 5:22 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-20 6:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 9:18 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-20 10:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 2:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 6:28 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-21 8:14 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-23 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 10:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 11:01 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-21 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 1:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 2:34 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-22 2:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 6:13 ` Werner LEMBERG
2016-02-22 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 18:27 ` Werner LEMBERG
2016-02-22 18:01 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 17:43 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-23 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 20:24 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-25 12:11 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-25 14:57 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-26 20:21 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-27 5:47 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-27 19:54 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-27 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-27 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-28 10:25 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-28 6:06 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-24 13:41 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-24 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-25 12:15 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-25 12:38 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-25 22:43 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-25 22:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-26 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-27 0:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-27 8:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-27 8:58 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-27 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-27 16:22 ` Ken Brown
2016-02-27 22:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-28 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-28 16:59 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-28 22:59 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-29 0:22 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 0:31 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-29 3:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-27 19:53 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-27 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-28 10:24 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-28 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<E1aZyX5-0007bU-Mu@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<83oab0ako0.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-02-28 17:00 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-28 17:59 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-28 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-28 18:15 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-28 18:23 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-28 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-28 18:22 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-28 18:58 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-24 13:41 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-24 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-25 12:15 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-23 20:21 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-23 21:15 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-22 18:01 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 1:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-23 17:46 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-24 1:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 6:40 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-02-24 13:43 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-23 2:03 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-23 17:46 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 3:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 18:58 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23 7:50 ` Per Starbäck
2016-02-23 16:29 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-21 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 16:58 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-21 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 18:48 ` Ivan Andrus
2016-02-22 15:58 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2016-02-22 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 16:56 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2016-02-22 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 17:59 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 17:43 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-23 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-24 13:41 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-23 17:43 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1aYGze-000655-RM@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-23 18:00 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-22 17:59 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 0:14 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-23 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-24 0:16 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-24 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-25 0:29 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-25 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-29 0:22 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-29 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-29 23:40 ` Juri Linkov
2016-03-01 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-26 20:23 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-21 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 1:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 9:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-23 1:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-23 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 12:44 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-21 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-02-22 17:57 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 9:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 10:08 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-20 10:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 20:38 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-19 22:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-19 22:54 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-20 5:25 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-20 14:32 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-20 15:50 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-21 12:45 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-20 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 14:32 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-24 23:27 ` Rasmus
2016-02-25 20:46 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-13 18:15 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-13 18:26 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-12 19:09 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-12 19:39 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-13 15:32 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-13 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 16:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-13 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 16:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-13 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 17:15 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-13 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 17:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-13 17:46 ` andres.ramirez
2016-02-14 13:59 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-12 23:50 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-13 0:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-14 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-14 14:27 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-15 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-15 12:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-15 17:45 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-16 13:54 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-16 14:30 ` Per Starbäck
2016-02-16 19:32 ` Ken Brown
2016-02-16 23:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-17 16:03 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-18 8:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-18 17:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 12:37 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-19 18:31 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-17 8:00 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-17 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-17 18:30 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-17 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-17 20:26 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-17 20:06 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-17 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-17 22:58 ` Ken Brown
2016-02-18 0:03 ` Vinicius Latorre
2016-02-18 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 4:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-18 11:26 ` Filipp Gunbin
2016-02-18 17:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 12:30 ` Filipp Gunbin
2016-02-19 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-17 22:53 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-18 0:11 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-18 0:20 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-18 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 4:53 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-18 17:07 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-18 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 7:40 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-19 19:24 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-20 5:05 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-20 13:59 ` Achim Gratz
2016-02-19 20:47 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-20 14:31 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-18 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 18:18 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-18 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 16:30 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-18 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 16:38 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-13 17:58 ` Content navigation (was: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding) Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-13 16:32 ` On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-13 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 17:03 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-10 13:52 ` Adrian.B.Robert
2016-02-24 9:58 ` Marcin Borkowski
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=8360xinj5s.fsf@gnu.org \
--to=eliz@gnu.org \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=larsi@gnus.org \
--cc=lokedhs@gmail.com \
--cc=rms@gnu.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git This is an external index of several public inboxes, see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror all data and code used by this external index.