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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Missing changes in merges from emacs-25 to master
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 20:33:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8360wa1myk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1qi5yz6.fsf@engster.org> (message from David Engster on Fri,  25 Mar 2016 17:00:45 +0100)

> From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
> Cc: johnw@gnu.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:00:45 +0100
> 
> > After all this, what would you expect "git annotate" to show on the
> > master branch as the commit that introduced the affected source lines?
> > Shouldn't it show the original commit, i.e. 9835757?  Because it
> > doesn't show that, it shows ad879b7 instead.  If that's expected
> > behavior, then I _really_ don't understand what "skip" means here,
> > since it sounds like it didn't use the "ours" strategy, according to
> > your definition.  What am I missing?
> 
> Well, the cherry-picked commit ad879b7 is now in master's history. The
> patch of that diff shows that it changes those lines. That we chose to
> ignore the patch can only be seen by looking at the merge commit
> 300560577, which references the same 'tree' as the previous merge
> 'cb4e054e', meaning they both reference they same set of files:
> 
>   > git cat-file 300560577 -p                            
>     tree ae2bec4f10425bd61e2a90563edc178d382bb4b8
>     [...]
> 
>   > git cat-file cb4e054e41c -p
>     tree ae2bec4f10425bd61e2a90563edc178d382bb4b8
> 
> My best guess is that 'git annotate' does not incorporate that
> information, but I'm not familiar with the inner workings of that
> command. Maybe no one bothered to implement it, or maybe it would make
> annotation even slower.

So I guess the fact that a commit was skipped during a merge is
something that is so hard to see that perhaps the entire issue of
skipping is moot with Git, and we shouldn't be bothered by it.

> >> > With Bazaar, there was a clear mainline, displaying which these
> >> > commits wouldn't appear at all. We don't have that with Git, so the
> >> > analogy doesn't really help.
> >> 
> >> Bazaar didn't display *any* commits from merged branches by default,
> >> whether they were "skipped" or not.
> >
> > Of course: those commits were on other branches, so they are
> > irrelevant for the mainline.
> 
> Those commits were made part of mainline's history

Not in Bazaar's philosophy.  They are part of the DAG, but not of the
branch's mainline.

> > What Bazaar would show is the single merge-commit, which (with Bazaar)
> > "represents" the commits on the merged branch.
> 
> I forgot how it worked in Bazaar. Did a merge commit hold the full patch
> information of all merged commits?

Yes.

> I can at least assure you that the patches from those commits are
> ignored.

I believe you.  It's just strange and confusing that so many Git
commands show information that indicates the opposite, and the truth
is only shown by looking at the low-level objects and comparing
hashes.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-25 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-20 11:36 Missing changes in merges from emacs-25 to master martin rudalics
2016-03-20 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-20 18:38   ` martin rudalics
2016-03-20 18:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-20 19:15       ` martin rudalics
2016-03-21  7:36         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-21  9:22           ` martin rudalics
2016-03-21 17:55             ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-22 10:22               ` martin rudalics
2016-03-22 10:36                 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-22 10:58                   ` martin rudalics
2016-03-22 11:32                     ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-22 11:47                       ` martin rudalics
2016-03-22 15:20                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-22 17:08                           ` martin rudalics
2016-03-22 15:24                         ` Noam Postavsky
2016-03-22 17:08                           ` martin rudalics
2016-03-21 16:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-21 17:55             ` John Wiegley
2016-03-21 17:57               ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-21 18:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-21 21:27                 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-22  0:17                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-22  0:52                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-22  3:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 16:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 16:30                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 16:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 16:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 17:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 18:21                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-22 18:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 13:10                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 18:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 18:58                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23  2:08                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23  8:07                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-22 19:34                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-22 19:49                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-24  7:18                                 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-22 18:32                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-22 18:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 19:15                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-22 19:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 20:26                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-22 22:57                           ` David Engster
2016-03-22 23:45                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-25  8:52                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-25  9:14                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-25 10:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-25 11:50                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-25 13:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-25  9:15                           ` David Engster
2016-03-25 10:50                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-25 11:38                               ` David Engster
2016-03-25 14:15                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-25 16:00                                   ` David Engster
2016-03-25 16:27                                     ` David Engster
2016-03-25 17:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-03-25 17:52                                       ` David Engster
2016-03-25 18:43                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-25 19:29                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-25 19:42                                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-26 21:34                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 17:00                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-22 18:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 19:21                           ` John Wiegley
2016-03-22 19:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii

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