From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 17:27:05 +0300 Message-ID: <8360sion9i.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h9cdmj6t.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <5775A512.4020803@gmail.com> <8337ntvm2d.fsf@gnu.org> <5776B89F.60704@gmail.com> <83k2h5tbtv.fsf@gnu.org> <5776E1F4.3020709@gmail.com> <83eg7ctt90.fsf@gnu.org> <87poqwpfld.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83y45ks69l.fsf@gnu.org> <87inwkari1.fsf@mbork.pl> <83eg77oott.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hvc0yr.fsf@mbork.pl> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467815373 9305 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2016 14:29:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 14:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 16:29:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bKnpT-0007X1-7z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 16:29:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33826 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKnpP-00024r-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:29:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39412) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKnnR-0000b4-8s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKnnN-0001t8-EL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34801) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKnnN-0001sh-AX; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4368 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bKnnL-0007BF-0n; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:27:19 -0400 In-reply-to: <87a8hvc0yr.fsf@mbork.pl> (message from Marcin Borkowski on Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:57:16 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205249 Archived-At: > From: Marcin Borkowski > Cc: Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:57:16 +0200 > > >> On 2016-07-02, at 12:07, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > >> > You are missing the point. The point is how much of the basic > >> > functionality one needs to master before they can use a single feature > >> > >> As I said, in case of Org, next to none. > > > > That is false (I do use Org seriously). > > No, it isn't. > > In order to start to use outlining (one feature) you only need to know > how to mark up headlines (bol + stars + space + title) and how to use > TAB to cycle visibility. If I need only outlining, I don't need Org, I can use the Outline mode. We are talking about features that are in Org and only in Org. Come on, let's be serious in this discussion!