From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: When should ralloc.c be used? Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 09:53:20 +0300 Message-ID: <8360ojpndr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87twe6sx2g.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87eg51ng4r.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <87k2djwumn.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83h98nidvd.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg3rvtsf.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83k2dihpm9.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p2wzgj.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <838ttyhhzu.fsf@gnu.org> <871szqwu51.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <831szqhbc2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1itt79z.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <7baa18d4-2b09-caa8-005e-29008a383ad1@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvhwrgd5.fsf@gnu.org> <8539f38f-9a11-44c3-4de7-bb974c96206c@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477205635 2483 195.159.176.226 (23 Oct 2016 06:53:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 06:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 23 08:53:50 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1byCey-0006DQ-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 08:53:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39943 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byCf0-0007RE-Nd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53507) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byCeu-0007R9-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:53:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byCer-00080l-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:53:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58149) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byCer-00080h-D2; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2437 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1byCeq-00067D-Jt; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 02:53:25 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 22 Oct 2016 19:37:36 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208609 Archived-At: > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 19:37:36 -0700 > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > that doesn't explain why we'd need to use ralloc in the mean time. > > I suppose you're right that we don't need to; we could instead hack on Emacs to > get it to work without ralloc on recent glibc. How about using mmap in those cases? > If someone wants to do that, great. I'd rather spend my own limited > cycles on fixing the main problem, which is unexec. I thought we agreed to get rid of unexec by loading a single .elc file at startup of Emacs, and remove the distinction between temacs and emacs altogether. Is that what you'd like to work on? Thanks.