From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On removing some obsolete code from subr and core Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2016 19:59:51 +0200 Message-ID: <8360o1kdt4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878tsznpuq.fsf@udel.edu> <83fun6jpeq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478368837 8551 195.159.176.226 (5 Nov 2016 18:00:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2016 18:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mark Oteiza Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 05 19:00:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c35GJ-0007vy-Pl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2016 19:00:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53924 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c35GM-00070j-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2016 14:00:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c35Fp-00070L-FC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:59:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c35Fm-000559-Ey for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:59:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33674) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c35Fm-000551-Ca; Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3836 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c35Fj-0005A8-Ld; Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:59:42 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Mark Oteiza on Sat, 5 Nov 2016 09:50:05 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209195 Archived-At: > From: Mark Oteiza > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2016 09:50:05 -0400 > Cc: Emacs-devel > > > Why do we need to remove buffer_defaults? Once it is not exposed to > > Lisp as variables, what's the harm? > > None aside from (presumably) dead code. It's not dead code at all. It's how Emacs knows the default value of every variable that can become buffer-local, and that's how it can initialize every new buffer with those default values. I don't see how we could remove that.