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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: new `obarray` type
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 17:49:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8360jdch3f.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv37eiuh5j.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 12 Mar 2017 21:36:26 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 21:36:26 -0400
> 
> The patch below introduces a new type for obarrays, distinct
> from vectors.  Among other things, this makes it possible to print them
> in a more useful way (it doesn't print the contents, only the size, so
> the printed form is not computer-readable, but it's more
> palatable to the user).
> 
> Printing obarrays in a `read`able way seems like something that should
> be under the control of variable, since it's unclear in general what it
> would mean (for abbrev-tables, it would probably mean to print the name
> of every symbol, along with it value, function, and plist slots, but
> doing that for the `obarray` variable doesn't seem right (and it's not
> even clear what the `value` of each symbol in it should be, for
> buffer-local symbols)).

Let me be the devil's advocate: are there any clients of this change
other than abbrev-tables defined during the build time?  Because if
they are the only justification, then it's much easier to define them
in startup.el instead, which will make the problem go away.  Right?



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-13 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-13  1:36 new `obarray` type Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-03-13 17:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13 22:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-03-14  1:46   ` Herring, Davis
2017-03-14 12:52   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-14 20:14     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-03-15 17:25       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-15 18:19         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-15 19:24           ` (:named nil) in cl-defstruct (was: new `obarray` type) Stefan Monnier
2017-03-15 19:39             ` Noam Postavsky
2017-03-15 20:28               ` (:named nil) in cl-defstruct Stefan Monnier
2017-07-23 14:03         ` Converting CC Mode's obarrays to hash tables. [Was: new `obarray` type] Alan Mackenzie
2017-07-24 14:06           ` Stefan Monnier

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