From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28902: 25.3; M-x report-emacs-bug requires smtp Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 23:05:54 +0300 Message-ID: <8360baewd9.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508443641 24746 195.159.176.226 (19 Oct 2017 20:07:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 28902@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Far=C3=A9?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 19 22:07:17 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H5y-0005M9-Vr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 22:07:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51059 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H66-0006BD-3f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35106) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H5w-00068P-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H5q-0006wT-5y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42062) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H5q-0006wO-2g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H5p-0006pN-SI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28902 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28902-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28902.150844358326186 (code B ref 28902); Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2017 20:06:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50742 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H5D-0006oH-EK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:06:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43795) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H5B-0006o4-PI for 28902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:06:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H52-0006Wa-9T for 28902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:06:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40188) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H52-0006WN-6R; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:06:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1271 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e5H50-0005se-QY; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:06:12 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?Far=C3=A9?= on Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:10:35 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:138727 Archived-At: > From: Faré > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:10:35 -0400 > > M-x report-emacs-bug tries to send mail from the localhost, but these > days, due to spam issues, SMTP is not quite as available as it was say > twenty years ago. Most localhost do not have a mail server; > most ISPs do not offer SMTP and further block SMTP ports; > most servers on the internet will not relay mail without authentication; > to setup your own server requires possessing a domain and a stable > server, altering DNS records and mastering technologies > such as DKIM, DMARC, SPF, etc., that did not exist back in the days > when M-x report-emacs-bug was originally written. > To remain usable, M-x report-emacs-bug should at the very least > document how one may send the mail via some webmail instead, or > offer to configure emacs (or the underlying system) to offer > some interface that will bridge the SMTP gap somehow. This is bug#28154, and someone is hopefully working on it. Thanks.