From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Variable-width font indentation Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 15:50:27 +0200 Message-ID: <836066ptgc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87inaiss6l.fsf@web.de> <87fu5moe4c.fsf@web.de> <877eqyocro.fsf@web.de> <83zi3uz4nb.fsf@gnu.org> <0b1dd3fa-e0b0-ed20-a256-dd92d1c1826f@dancol.org> <8bc3c4c7-dfc7-987a-95e7-bd309e2326c6@cs.ucla.edu> <03118DC0-39DA-4AB5-980E-A33809B9A5EE@raeburn.org> <83vaeas8uz.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgf6s3aa.fsf@gnu.org> <8b94336f-1bb4-84ab-263b-af5ba40bfca4@cs.ucla.edu> <673d6612-f0d4-5d34-c6ee-a276dbba3068@cs.ucla.edu> <836069rxfw.fsf@gnu.org> <83fu5brer1.fsf@gnu.org> <9bd2a797-22b5-4c30-a39a-b5bd5dc98632@dancol.org> <87po4eoigy.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520516924 12490 195.159.176.226 (8 Mar 2018 13:48:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 08 14:48:40 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etvuS-00038m-2R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 14:48:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39187 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etvwU-0001Dz-PV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:50:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52197) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etvwN-0001DL-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:50:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etvwI-0006SI-Hk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:50:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59561) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etvwI-0006SB-Dg; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:50:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3694 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1etvwF-0005Hc-Vg; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:50:34 -0500 In-reply-to: <87po4eoigy.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 08 Mar 2018 13:33:01 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223497 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Daniel Colascione , eliz@gnu.org, sds@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 13:33:01 +0100 > > > > (maybe a comment), but since other tools would know nothing of this > > > information, it would go out of date. Requiring that people edit a > > > source file only with Emacs is not realistic. > > > > I agree. One of the features we will want > > is to make Emacs able to read and write ODT format and RTF, > > even if at first it can only handle subsets of their features. > > I'm still not clear on the goals here, and this makes things even less > clear. As others have mentioned, LibreOffice exists, so why does Emacs > need to be able to read and write ODT? [1] So that we could exchange documents with users of Office.