From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: yamaoka@jpl.org, 35383@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35383: 27.0.50; Complete process of decoding Gnus group names
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:41:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <835zqwu8cq.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878svtihdw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (message from Eric Abrahamsen on Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:07:23 -0700)
> From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:07:23 -0700
> Cc: 35383@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > The goal is to have Gnus default to writing its active files in
> > 'utf-8-emacs, unless the user has specifically requested otherwise.
> > `nnmail-active-file-coding-system' governs the "mail" type servers, and
> > `gnus-agent-file-coding-system' governs the agent. Currently those two
> > options default to 'raw-text, we'd like them to default to 'utf-8-emacs.
>
> Actually, maybe that's wrong. We don't care how the files are written,
> only that, after parsing, the group names are successfully _decoded_ to
> 'utf-8-emacs. Maybe I'm trying too hard?
When you decode _any_ text by _any_ coding-system, the result is
_always_ utf-8-emacs, because utf-8-emacs is the internal
representation of characters and raw bytes in Emacs buffers and
strings.
We write text out as utf-8-emacs when we don't want to risk the danger
of decoding incorrectly due to local customizations and language
environments. Text encoded in utf-8-emacs can by definition represent
_any_ character and raw byte that Emacs can read, and the "decoding"
in this case is trivial.
So no, you are not trying too hard, not IMO.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-29 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-22 18:39 bug#35383: 27.0.50; Complete process of decoding Gnus group names Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-23 8:12 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-04-23 19:55 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-24 8:06 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-04-24 17:04 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-24 23:48 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-04-25 16:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-26 5:21 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-04-26 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26 8:08 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-04-26 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-29 4:05 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-29 4:07 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-29 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-04-29 20:04 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-30 3:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-30 17:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-30 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-30 17:19 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-30 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-30 18:17 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-29 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 0:32 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-05-13 20:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-18 20:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-18 22:12 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-18 23:23 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-19 1:03 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-19 2:56 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-19 17:02 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-10 23:19 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-06-11 0:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-11 4:33 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-11 8:09 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2019-04-23 15:42 ` Andy Moreton
2019-04-23 21:42 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-04-23 22:58 ` Andy Moreton
2019-06-17 6:06 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-17 12:12 ` Deus Max
2019-06-17 16:22 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-19 20:57 ` Deus Max
2019-06-19 21:02 ` Deus Max
2019-06-19 21:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-20 13:00 ` Deus Max
2019-06-20 16:29 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-20 19:01 ` Deus Max
2019-06-20 19:16 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-21 20:59 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-22 14:44 ` Deus Max
2019-06-22 16:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-06-23 10:27 ` Deus Max
2019-07-08 3:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-07-08 19:46 ` Deus Max
2019-07-23 23:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-07-30 23:00 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-01 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-01 16:22 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-03 21:53 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-27 14:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 21:28 ` Deus Max
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