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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: alexanderm@web.de, yyoncho@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Questions about throw-on-input
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 17:23:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <835zcy61e9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkTmvkR2vY2+5kGGead_CE3KUFTUokCXm8ihcwjnO0uSDg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Philipp Stephani on Thu, 14 May 2020 10:32:44 +0200)

> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 10:32:44 +0200
> Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm@web.de>, Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, 
> 	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, yyoncho <yyoncho@gmail.com>
> 
> > Your ideal world seems to be based on an editor design that is very
> > different from what Emacs is.  The absolute majority of objects which
> > an average Lisp program manipulates are globally visible -- buffers,
> > windows, frames, global variables, the obarray, etc., and doing that
> > in non-blocking ways is not really trivial.
> >
> 
> And that's what I'd call one of the biggest problems in current
> Emacs's design. Much of the development in programming practices over
> the last few decades has been moving away from global mutable state,
> in order to increase robustness and predictability, and also to make
> concurrency without subprocesses possible.

My point is that adding multithreading to Emacs will need rethinking
and redesigning many core features, so it is a large job.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-14 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-10 13:47 Questions about throw-on-input Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 15:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 16:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 17:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 17:39         ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 18:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 18:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 19:48             ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 20:14               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 22:33                 ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-13 14:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 18:47                     ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-14  8:32                     ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-14 14:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-05-14 14:37                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-14 16:56                       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  3:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15  3:54                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15  8:19                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 15:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 16:46                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-15 17:31                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 17:50                                     ` yyoncho
2020-05-15 18:44                                       ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-15 18:55                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 19:46                                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-15 18:00                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-15 17:35                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 19:47                                 ` chad
2020-05-16 11:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12  2:39           ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-12 14:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 18:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-09 13:09 Alexander Miller
2020-05-10 11:11 ` yyoncho
2020-05-07  7:31 Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-07 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-07 14:28   ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-07 21:11   ` yyoncho
2020-05-08  1:58     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08  4:36       ` yyoncho
2020-05-08  4:43         ` yyoncho
2020-05-12  4:15       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-08 10:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 11:23       ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-08 11:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 11:55           ` yyoncho
2020-05-08 14:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 18:04           ` yyoncho
2020-05-07 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 15:36   ` Ivan Yonchovski

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