From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44020: 28.0.50; Prefer selection of colour emoji fonts? Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:44:44 +0300 Message-ID: <835z79uzab.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tuuvtl5n.fsf@gnus.org> <83tuuvwcd8.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6wmwjod.fsf@gnu.org> <20201016193041.GA1166@breton.holly.idiocy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36069"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 44020@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org To: Alan Third Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 08:45:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxr-0009Hk-MC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 08:45:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46864 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxq-0002dJ-Oh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:45:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxe-0002dD-6B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxd-0002m1-OW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:45:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxd-000457-Mc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:45:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 06:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44020 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44020-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44020.160291709215661 (code B ref 44020); Sat, 17 Oct 2020 06:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44020) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2020 06:44:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxT-00044W-Ue for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:44:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxR-00044K-Td for 44020@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51664) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxM-0002eV-Bl; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:44:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1607 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kTfxL-00062R-Ks; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:44:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20201016193041.GA1166@breton.holly.idiocy.org> (message from Alan Third on Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:30:41 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190756 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:30:41 +0100 > From: Alan Third > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44020@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:38:18PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > > >>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:26:42 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: > > > > Eli> Also, Noto Color Emoji has a free license, so it's okay for it to be > > Eli> in fontset.el, but it is not clear to me whether Apple Color Emoji is > > Eli> distributed under a free license. > > > > Itʼs marked 'Copyright Apple 2011-2016' in the macOS font > > selector. And Apple appear to be both sensitive and litigious about > > it, so probably best not to promote it. > > On the other hand it comes preinstalled, it only works on Apple > devices, and Noto Color Emoji doesn't work on Apple devices. I'm not > sure we'd really be "promoting" it. > > IIRC Windows comes with Segoe UI Emoji preinstalled too. Both are true, but AFAIK our policy until now was not to mention such fonts in fontset.el. Emoji is just one example, btw. At least for MS-Windows, the latest versions come with many good fonts that cover most of the scripts. So if the restriction to avoid mentioning proprietary fonts in fontset.el could be lifted, we could produce a very capable and complete fontset for MS-Windows. I wouldn't be surprised if the same situation didn't exist on macOS. Not sure how things are on GNU/Linux, and what are the differences between the distros in this respect.