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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Eager garbage collection
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:34:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <835z65tg48.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv5z65l5q8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 16 Nov 2020 10:07:58 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 10:07:58 -0500
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> This will cause an eager GC right after Emacs goes idle, which can
> happen while the user is actively typing.  I think it would be
> preferable to run this from an idle timer to make sure that we run
> during an actual pause of incoming events.  Your code effectively uses
> an idle-time of 0, and I'm not sure what idle-time we should
> use instead.
> 
> Admittedly, using an idle time of 0 means we start the GC right at the
> beginning of the (potentially short) pause, which also makes it more
> likely that we'll have finished GC before the next event comes in.

Starting GC immediately when Emacs becomes idle will degrade
responsiveness if there's a lot of garbage, because once GC starts, it
runs to completion no matter what.

So maybe this "eager" GC should also be sensitive to the amount of
garbage, in a sense that it should wait more if there's lot of it.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-16 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16  4:11 Eager garbage collection sbaugh
2020-11-16 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 16:34   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-16 18:37     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18 18:00     ` yyoncho
2020-11-18 18:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 21:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18 21:59           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <Message-ID: <jwv1rgtjhhy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2020-11-18  0:20 ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18  0:20   ` [PATCH 1/3] Add gc-estimated-time variable Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 17:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  0:20   ` [PATCH 2/3] Add garbage-collect-maybe function Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 17:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  0:20   ` [PATCH 3/3] Start opportunistic GC timer at startup Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 17:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  3:45   ` Eager garbage collection Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18  4:05     ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18  4:48       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18  8:02   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 15:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 15:30       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 17:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 17:26           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 18:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 18:19               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 15:19     ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 15:47       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 16:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18 17:12           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 17:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 18:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  5:07     ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22  5:08       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Add gc-estimated-time variable Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 18:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 19:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  5:08       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Add garbage-collect-maybe function Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 18:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  5:08       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Start opportunistic GC timer at startup Spencer Baugh
2020-12-04 23:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-05  7:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-05 13:55             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-05 14:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-05 14:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22 15:13       ` Eager garbage collection Eli Zaretskii

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