From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking the output of `C-h b' Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2021 15:11:49 +0200 Message-ID: <835ytaln1m.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lf29xdkf.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7cxx9bh.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgqpvtky.fsf@gnus.org> <87v91dvt6y.fsf@gnus.org> <87o874vhp2.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0hsvgvv.fsf@gnus.org> <87bl34iosa.fsf@yahoo.com> <875ytcigzr.fsf@yahoo.com> <83h7cwm4xm.fsf@gnu.org> <87v91bol47.fsf@gmail.com> <83tugvlrrb.fsf@gnu.org> <87o873o81g.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36563"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Matthias Meulien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 02 14:19:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mhthY-0009Gx-E6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:19:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55510 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhthW-0001kd-Qp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 09:19:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51738) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhta1-0007BJ-J5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 09:11:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhtZy-0000bB-R9; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 09:11:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=000qX+KCh1BgrS7TeosxVFvom7YaaAoZxcLyTtKCOmE=; b=hmG8x7kL/IVD 3KpoaTv83QqCHQIf3PfuJHo9xCJwVmsXlgveftefb7GlYtXsbVZRUwv7oXUtZQCZFmNk2jaynWIUf 4eQWINOxohMr7xHbGnBXPiXLfaPMsksdRqF2SuMSCq8dvRqhWxpc8Rz9kIkCB+xJ8nL3yebMVCgRx 8Blv/HyPgjEsTf4/4zUwNK0hPCJ2LkeNDNZDEijqomON94QOHgkaM/NQeDIw75yx5kw89dsE6ExgF thlXc4vPYZRxIH7p/dIWr3Fn6g9/vKTgpvMwQN5NhuK/FwsDK13Ax0zXya1rUd+povz+H+FKBx4g7 +YsJkpj9q2ZczBwrqUONBA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2473 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhtZy-00074Q-2h; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 09:11:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87o873o81g.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Matthias Meulien on Mon, 01 Nov 2021 22:55:23 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278474 Archived-At: > From: Matthias Meulien > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2021 22:55:23 +0100 > > > What column alignment do you have in mind, and why would it not be > > preserved without using the fringes? > > I was thinking of a buffer containing source code with > outline-minor-mode enabled. The column alignment would not be preserved > since the emoji, SVG arrow, etc., whatever is inserted at the beginning > of a line but in the fringe, occupies horizontal space within the line. > > Stephan Monnier gave an example. This discussion is about "C-h b" buffers and Customize buffers, and I think you are talking about a different use case. > > Do you see such a problem in the Customize buffers? > > Customize buffers weren't in my scope. > > I don't know if it's related to the arrow but I find their identation > strange: The settings aren't indented but their description is indented > by three spaces and doesn't align with the first non-white space > character following the arrow. I don't see a problem here: the line with the arrow is a heading, so it doesn't have to align to what's below it.