From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Motif support Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 09:50:44 +0200 Message-ID: <835yrl9gob.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878rwhbb91.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <878rwhbb91.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee699irm.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1a99icp.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24793"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 19 08:51:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1myqz6-0006Ha-NV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 08:51:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46120 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myqz4-0005cc-Mi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 02:51:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47152) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myqy6-0004rI-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 02:50:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=54448 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myqy6-0007Bj-AX; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 02:50:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=thWNsNgX7ZOsqIy28fS9RBHYcHPhWzFBgBhOgJitCFw=; b=sYh2rvcnkoEy FWqJPProQmingSQYn07q/ZGOE5u2h1QxS7cZWGnvJV+tocX5Mkoj5TXfXy/R6ewGOkrQKCvJa+BUh zfENXl5It7wmue8QanYT4Lvz+3mFtNuioX6jWyBSZ1XUvKiVuA5YKwIhFs/xVwZBWMfHDSdAc1UFx RFGre+Pf6WyZlG0ugBQHxWYusHWc5nliHFV7oM6zCUlp9EdHAU9H1qWraE0Q4U9tJQw8RNBbhdgTU +vczYbkOMW0Z7WKtxD3v7KNpOK2ZVIA70xqZf6Y4EACLm+FmzKYWdYse55tG5/HK/H6zi/FM6RGLM CigzzFMAA/8y9cieoeceqw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1433 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myqy5-00089E-PT; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 02:50:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r1a99icp.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 15:14:30 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282373 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 15:14:30 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I don't think we want to reinstate Motif support. > > The code still works perfectly: reinstating that line allowed me to > configure and build a functioning Motif Emacs, even with new features > such as XInput2. We didn't remove Motif because it was broken, we removed it because the consensus was it was relatively unused and unsupported by distros. > It won't hurt to keep that code, especially since nobody has managed to > break in close to a year since it was disabled, even with large features > such as XInput2 and the xwidgets update. I don't like to go back on our decisions except if they turn out to be grave mistakes. So, unless there are very good reasons to reinstate Motif support, I'd like to leave it unsupported. Let's see what others think about this.