From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59346: Adding sqlite-backup Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 09:52:55 +0200 Message-ID: <835yfb9y94.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837czsd7sr.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6ywbgo5.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33331"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ahyatt@gmail.com, 59346@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 19 08:53:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1owIfE-0008V5-FW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 08:53:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owIex-0003EB-24; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:53:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owIes-0003De-VK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:53:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owIes-0003sk-Ma for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owIes-0007Hl-9e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:53:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 07:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59346 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 59346-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59346.166884437727992 (code B ref 59346); Sat, 19 Nov 2022 07:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59346) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2022 07:52:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38910 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owIem-0007HO-Uq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:52:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43530) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owIek-0007HC-Ng for 59346@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:52:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owIef-0003qo-1y; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:52:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=2d2vST7sjVi/oa8ihybB0cUDRdX63u7EDcfe12YK8GU=; b=d2RE+OwkiA7x t9Fo4YkFSbld+ZFE7dQK1Kggh30Hl6vpH/di/NtJNKXfHcV6P2ChKhbFeQir4KDsysvWC0FyQU7kH lDl7lVHo0s3j7uVCYPXGbYWcPT5pPad6Q+eO1lHDWjx8mVRsLZLSIvsko7AT0cCvicekjPxl/fbOY mwQ1051iE09ze3oCEUzznmkLJDzp2uQqoujZCZ4K3n7fycA1L0fMvFBuMhD1uJwx417F0OYj4AHD6 Da5HTeX+UuJ7A2mqXHhNRq3Oo3R9BTYid3Y8TktA97j19z2rHzSJoFd9XiUyPp5t6+jl5BPSh2yTW ydQy+xCtL9KpJxTXAmwdzw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owIee-0004jC-Hm; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 02:52:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Sat, 19 Nov 2022 08:17:21 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:248317 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 08:17:21 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: Andrew Hyatt , 59346@debbugs.gnu.org > > When SQLite is already included in Emacs, it should not expect then > that external SQLite related software is available on the system. I disagree. We included sqlite support in Emacs to let Lisp programs gain access to databases, but we didn't intend to make Emacs a platform for developing full-fledged sqlite applications. And I see nothing wrong with using external applications for DB administration, especially since the tools to do that come with the same sqlite installation as the library. > It is logical that Emacs with SQLite included should have proper way > of doing backup without relying on external tools. You take that logic too far beyond our intent.