From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59275: Unexpected return value of `string-collate-lessp' on Mac Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:58:20 +0200 Message-ID: <835yf5zpir.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zgcsdfma.fsf@localhost> <83iljgib4w.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6z0cl6b.fsf@localhost> <837czwi6yp.fsf@gnu.org> <8735ajel7y.fsf@localhost> <83mt8rgill.fsf@gnu.org> <877czokbpk.fsf@localhost> <8335ac4eo5.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilj7dbms.fsf@localhost> <83sfib172p.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6yqhs4l.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38780"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59275@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 23 15:59:37 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrDs-0009tK-3a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:59:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrDL-0003Pm-Qb; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrDK-0003PS-8q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:59:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrDK-0007FL-08 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:59:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrDJ-0004Cs-JS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:59:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59275 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59275-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59275.166921549416108 (code B ref 59275); Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59275) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2022 14:58:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrCY-0004Bj-2H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:58:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45416) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrCU-0004BV-D8 for 59275@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:58:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrCP-00077Y-2F; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:58:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=yfb0NhpweMcqZ+U7Yz05HLrcvSk/wG8sC0jwSVPEu4A=; b=NX1OKg2XuzNc cnP2Jqvc1WAWnB31WPmsL55lla0yIIIlNyYBqgoGIAHDXDoV9L6t35lleoRExZeS1n04bdvj/dYq5 p3bx4s+91p1iRYM5aIKSM/rxYz96gUSugmHEO3x1j4IsbIb50UrRKgPDqbQHfduqiXnuHZyeuQYar qSEY/X00te/x2FWs1ueTYuPbfe26PWu2DJEngUGzyH/r5AMkLQfWBe0JA439sZ9JwQu1HVAGtoR5h CL92CWyFi4s8vrgIoVcKA/zRwL36wv3nZ+rt46fokDWqodL+3CaNvPgPDnXIu79+HOeQo7ALtjnuD zFnLMY8WBhvTcE2jdPREYw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxrCO-0005lm-90; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:58:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87h6yqhs4l.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:39:22 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:248751 Archived-At: > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: 59275-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:39:22 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> See the attached patch. > > > > Thanks, installed. > > Should we update the manual as well? > 4.5 Comparison of Characters and Strings section contains the old > docstring verbatim. I see in the manual text that is not a verbatim copy of the doc string, but an expanded version of it with more detailed explanations. Which is how it should be: it is IMNSHO bad documentation-fu to have the manual just copycat the doc strings. (We sometimes do it for lack of time, but it is not a Good Thing.) The note about case-sensitivity of the fallback was missing from the manual, so I added it. > P.S. I am wondering if there is some automated way to deal with verbatim > docstrings in the manuals. They are so easy to slip through when the > Elisp docstrings get updated. There should be no verbatim copies of doc strings in the manual. So I'm not interested in making that bad practice easier ;-) Thanks.