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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com
Cc: 13580@debbugs.gnu.org, Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#13580: 24.2.92; regression in calc-convert-units
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:49:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <834nhm97y9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3qi514c.fsf@gmail.com>

> From: Jay Belanger <jay.p.belanger@gmail.com>
> Cc: 13580@debbugs.gnu.org
> CC: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:30:43 -0600
> 
> > He is talking about this (see
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_quantity):
> 
> I've indicated that I know what dimensionless means

Sorry about that.  I wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page
in this regard.

> Sure, but if a user asks Calc to work with m/m, the classic Calc
> behavior was for Calc to ask for a new unit, then basically ignore it
> and cancel the units.  If the user put in "3 m/m", "New units: rad", the
> result would not be "3", not "3 rad".  (Behind the scenes the new unit
> would be introduced but then disappear.)  It ended up just simplifying
> the units.  Asking for unused information seems like a bug.  This was
> changed so that it wouldn't ask for the essentially unused information.
> Since Calc then acts without informing the user, I added information and
> allowed the user to treat the expression as unitless.  That is the way I
> would like to use it.  But it seems like there are two reasonable
> behaviors when the units cancel:
>  (1) Simplify the expression.  (The 24 branch behavior.)
>  (2) Treat it like a unitless expression. (The trunk behavior.)
> Changing from the classic behavior to (1) was fixing a bug; when I heard
> a complaint about the lack of information that (1) provided, I changed
> to (2).
> Perhaps Calc should stick to (1), and let the user deal with the
> simplified expression. 
> 
> Or: What do you suggest? 

I'd rather hope that Roland will suggest the alternative behavior he
would like to see instead.





  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-08 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-28 22:24 bug#13580: 24.2.92; regression in calc-convert-units Roland Winkler
2013-01-29  1:10 ` Jay Belanger
2013-01-29  2:55 ` Jay Belanger
2013-01-30 14:20 ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-07 17:38   ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-07 19:53     ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-07 20:11       ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-07 20:18         ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-07 20:23           ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-07 20:33             ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-07 20:33             ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-07 20:40               ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-08  1:29                 ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-08  1:51                   ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-07 20:24       ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-07 20:39         ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-07 20:55           ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-07 21:11             ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-08  8:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-08 14:30                 ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-08 14:49                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2013-02-08 14:56                     ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-09  4:57                     ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-09 15:08                       ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-09 16:14                         ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-09 23:49                           ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-10  0:19                             ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-10  0:41                               ` Jay Belanger
2013-02-08 15:41                   ` Jay Belanger
     [not found]             ` <87d2wb3k4e.fsf@gmail.com>
2013-02-07 21:19               ` Roland Winkler
2013-02-08  8:21             ` Eli Zaretskii

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