From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modern Conventions for Emacs Lisp files? Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:04:26 +0300 Message-ID: <834nf86u79.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87hajhswdh.fsf@gmail.com> <87y5csu7ml.fsf@gmail.com> <87hajgu5bp.fsf@gmail.com> <87li8m3sny.fsf@gmail.com> <87y5cknq9q.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366016691 16414 80.91.229.3 (15 Apr 2013 09:04:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bzg@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thorsten Jolitz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 15 11:04:55 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1URfLI-0004Zo-1k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:04:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58861 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URfLH-0000BR-KU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:04:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URfLD-0000BE-4l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:04:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URfLB-0006kh-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:04:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:33324) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URfLA-0006kM-6E; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:04:44 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MLA00K00H5Q8B00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:04:17 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MLA00JDGH75TA80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:04:17 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87y5cknq9q.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158918 Archived-At: > From: Thorsten Jolitz > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:37:21 +0200 > Cc: Bastien > > | ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; > | ;; > | ;;; Commentary: > | ;; > | > | [...] > `------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I would prefer in this case not to investigate why this line causes such > problems but rather to consider writing such a line a bug. > > So maybe Bastien could consider this a bug-report and remove this line? > Because otherwise org.el with its more than 23000 lines is just a > perfect example were the use of outline/outshine and navi-mode for file > structuring, high-level (over)views on the file and easy navigation > makes sense. There are about 60 non-Org *.el files in Emacs which have similar lines, and about 40 in lisp/org/. So IMO asking people not to use that runs a risk of being a quixotic battle.