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> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:03:30 +0200
> From: Andreas R=C3=B6hler <andreas.roehler@online.de>
>=20
> Am 23.09.2013 02:18, schrieb Lennart Borgman:
> > The tutorial kind of throws other keybindings than the arrow keys=
 on the
> > new user. Kind of patronizing if someone asks me. ;-)
>=20
> Putting users first attention at that kind of matter, it also sprea=
ds a quit unjust and wrong impression WRT Emacs and it's people.
>=20
> That tutorial probably was okay twenty years ago.
> No it reads as vim's ":q" is envied, proving emacs can make it diff=
icult too.

When did you read it last time? also 20 years ago?