From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:07:40 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <834n9cj9s3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <523FD9B2.9030304@online.de>
> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:03:30 +0200
> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de>
>
> Am 23.09.2013 02:18, schrieb Lennart Borgman:
> > The tutorial kind of throws other keybindings than the arrow keys on the
> > new user. Kind of patronizing if someone asks me. ;-)
>
> Putting users first attention at that kind of matter, it also spreads a quit unjust and wrong impression WRT Emacs and it's people.
>
> That tutorial probably was okay twenty years ago.
> No it reads as vim's ":q" is envied, proving emacs can make it difficult too.
When did you read it last time? also 20 years ago?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-23 7:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-22 6:18 Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience JMorte
2013-09-22 11:41 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-22 16:04 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-22 17:27 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-09-22 18:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 18:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-22 19:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-09-22 17:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 17:53 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-22 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-22 22:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 23:59 ` Jay Belanger
2013-09-23 0:18 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 0:28 ` Jay Belanger
2013-09-23 6:03 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2013-09-23 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 9:26 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 9:41 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 14:04 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-23 14:23 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-24 13:10 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-09-24 13:14 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-24 17:28 ` Davis Herring
2013-09-23 6:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 10:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 11:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 11:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 13:43 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:21 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-23 14:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:49 ` Alp Aker
2013-09-24 12:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 14:11 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 14:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 17:31 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 17:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 18:06 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 19:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-25 15:42 ` chad
2013-09-25 16:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-24 12:36 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 16:59 ` Richard Stallman
2013-09-23 5:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-09-24 8:39 ` Juri Linkov
2013-09-23 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-24 12:55 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-09-22 15:32 ` Drew Adams
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