From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: default-frame-alist vs. initial-frame-alist Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:08:42 +0300 Message-ID: <834mut7gyt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1414093587.20031.6.camel@jocke.my.home> <83d29i6k8b.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414156166 6826 80.91.229.3 (24 Oct 2014 13:09:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tjernlund@tjernlund.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 15:09:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XhecJ-00020C-7m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:09:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48573 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XhecI-0006yo-Pe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:09:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50785) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhebw-0006t2-Ul for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:09:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhebr-0007WY-Sg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:64522) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhebr-0007WL-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NDY0010091NBF00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:08:50 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NDY001Q29UPCJ00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:08:50 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175772 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Tjernlund , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:04:22 -0400 > > >> I have to set both lists below to make the change in colors > >> effective. I think it should be enough with > >> default-frame-alist. This is on both 24.3 and 24.4 > > > This is the expected behavior, as described in the User Manual (see > > the node "Frame Parameters"). Emacs always worked like that. > > Really? When I do: > > emacs -Q --eval '(setq default-frame-alist (quote ((background-color . "blue") (font . "fixed"))))' > > I expect the initial frame to show me Emacs in a hideous font with > unbearable blue background. And indeed that's what I get here. I'm quite sure the OP customized the list from .emacs, not from the command line. See the original message, which clearly shows that.