From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 24.5 second release candidate Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:22:50 +0300 Message-ID: <834moyqwb9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87619fvb9s.fsf@blueberry.home> <87384juhme.fsf@blueberry.home> <87zj6qtzch.fsf@blueberry.home> <20150402140228.GB23848@acm.fritz.box> <838uear1xa.fsf@gnu.org> <20150402161256.GC23848@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427995393 27613 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2015 17:23:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 17:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, nicolas@petton.fr, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 02 19:23:06 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ydipc-0001Ts-RZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 19:23:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59519 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ydipc-00075w-6F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38366) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdipZ-00075n-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdipW-0005ES-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:23:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:36664) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdipV-0005EB-VS; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:22:58 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NM600D00VROXR00@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:14:33 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NM600DF1VW97M10@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:14:33 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20150402161256.GC23848@acm.fritz.box> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.180 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184794 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:12:56 +0000 > From: Alan Mackenzie > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, nicolas@petton.fr, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Do you have an estimation of how much time you will need? > > Perhaps this evening, perhaps tomorrow morning. It's one of these nasty > little bugs which looks totally wierd and random until one stumbles upon > the cause, after which it takes 2 minutes to fix. > > > Also, was this bug caused by a recent commit, and if so, which one? > > No, I don't think it was. I think it was "unmasked" by a recent bug > "fix", d69e9f1c24f37f36af33b0468c5a4e100dbb09b6 from 2015-02-01. Oleh > Krehel, the OP of the pertinent bug #20245, says that with that change > reversed, the bug symptoms don't manifest themselves. I haven't checked > this yet, but it sounds plausible. That fix is actually incomplete, > requiring Monday/yesterday's fix to make it complete. > > I'm beginning to come round to the view that perhaps it might be best > just to take d69e9f1c24f37f36af33b0468c5a4e100dbb09b6 out of Emacs 24.5, > as Oleh Krehel has explicitly suggested. Sounds plausible. Please share your opinions after you study the issue.