From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22926: 24.5; `shell-command', `shell-command-default-error-buffer' Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:35:48 +0200 Message-ID: <834mciuty3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<97b7c9cf-83fc-4d10-8f2b-836132fcc5ca@default>> <<83ziubv72j.fsf@gnu.org>> <4e20bee2-3a48-44d1-8501-f19ccc660b0a@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457368605 26515 80.91.229.3 (7 Mar 2016 16:36:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22926@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 07 17:36:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8q-0000pp-MV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 17:36:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56908 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8q-00035r-1V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:36:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8e-0002vn-9C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8Y-00044K-Je for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:36:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41152) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8Y-00044C-GQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8Y-0005o3-C0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:36:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22926.145736855322278 (code B ref 22926); Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2016 16:35:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8P-0005nG-5y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:35:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39391) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8O-0005n4-4b for 22926@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:35:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8E-00040U-C4 for 22926@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:35:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47249) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8E-00040Q-3t; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:35:42 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1300 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1acy8D-00047H-Ak; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:35:41 -0500 In-reply-to: <4e20bee2-3a48-44d1-8501-f19ccc660b0a@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:30:59 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:114541 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:30:59 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 22926@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > 2. `shell-command-default-error-buffer': Make it a user option. > > > > Not sure it's necessary. > > Why should it be an internal variable? Did you check how it is used? I'm just saying it's not obvious we should do that. > > > 4. Also, some lines in the doc string are too long (but not by > > > much: 74 chars max instead of 70). > > > > I don't see how this can be helped, as those lines generally > > reference symbols with long names. > > Huh? This is the longest line (but the mailer will perhaps wrap it): > > `start-process' directly, since it offers more control and does not impose > > This is the second longest: > > In an interactive call, the variable `shell-command-default-error-buffer' > > This the third longest: > > insert output in current buffer. (This cannot be done asynchronously.) The second one cannot be usefully made shorter (going from 72 columns to 36 doesn't sound like a move for the best). And since we have a 72 column line, having a 74-column line in the same doc string doesn't sound like a disaster to me.