From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:21:08 +0200 Message-ID: <834mchrle3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> <838u1uuuau.fsf@gnu.org> <878u1um2xl.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <3be41f0b-452f-78b2-4eea-49f207e060a0@yandex.ru> <87lh5u9d6m.fsf@red-bean.com> <87a8ma9b9u.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457454193 11493 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2016 16:23:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andy Moreton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 17:23:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adKNy-0000n0-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:21:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35637 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKNx-0008Tm-AS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:21:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKNb-0008Mt-K8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:21:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKNX-00064N-Bx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKNX-00064J-9U; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:20:59 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2726 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1adKNW-00040D-Hs; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:20:59 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Andy Moreton on Tue, 08 Mar 2016 15:21:07 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201167 Archived-At: > From: Andy Moreton > Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 15:21:07 +0000 > > For the avoidance of doubt, I think that the changelog format describing > the contents of the diff should not be included in the git commit > message, as it is a pointless duplication of information that the diff > already provides. Let the version control system handle what changed, > and put much more emphasis on describing why the patch exists. I don't think anyone is arguing with that. We don't tell contributors to describe the changes literally. For example, if the change is i = i + 1; then saying "add 1 to i" is a very bad log entry.