From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:13:47 +0300 Message-ID: <834m9u9dis.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160518194708.27363.47377@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20160518194708.86FE0220157@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463678116 1050 80.91.229.3 (19 May 2016 17:15:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 19 19:15:05 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b3RWH-00026h-IO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 May 2016 19:13:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51473 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3RWG-0000aX-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 May 2016 13:13:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40929) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3RWA-0000a0-Sc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2016 13:13:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3RW4-0007ct-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2016 13:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36611) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3RW4-0007cV-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2016 13:13:44 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1945 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b3RW2-0007Ev-Eg; Thu, 19 May 2016 13:13:43 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Thu, 19 May 2016 12:44:49 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203888 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:44:49 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576) > [...] > > +;;;###autoload > > (defcustom server-name "server" > > Autoloading defcustoms just so people can set them interactively before > the associated package is loaded is a Bad Thing. I don't understand why. Can you explain? That's not the only defcustom that is marked as autoloaded. > IMO it would have been better to simply remove the bit about > set-variable from the manual. I don't see why we should remove useful advice from the manual, just because it's inconvenient to make it work.