From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:55:40 +0300 Message-ID: <834m9s8spf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160518194708.27363.47377@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20160518194708.86FE0220157@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <834m9u9dis.fsf@gnu.org> <5jy474fxib.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8360u88vue.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463770553 24989 80.91.229.3 (20 May 2016 18:55:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 18:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 20 20:55:48 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b3paN-0004B9-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 20:55:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56014 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3paM-0007xQ-LS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:55:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48494) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3paC-0007w2-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:55:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3pa9-0004wM-7L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:55:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53585) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3pa9-0004w5-49; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:55:33 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3512 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b3pa7-00064L-2L; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:55:31 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 20 May 2016 21:15:59 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203914 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:15:59 +0300 > > On 05/20/2016 08:47 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > We must solve the problems that annoy users (and me as well). > > Have you ever experienced an actual need to modify the variable > `server-name' using `set-variable' yourself? I honestly don't remember. I did get annoyed by set-variable not working for the same reasons with other variables, though, so I am sympathetic with the OP's annoyance. > Like Glenn says, it looks like a pretty niche feature. Then why are we arguing about it so much? > If so, it would not be unreasonable to expect that the user is > familiar with `setq'. We don't advise using setq in the user manual, in general.