From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-oob-reboot Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 14:02:22 +0300 Message-ID: <834lwyfdtt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83efw2fndf.fsf@gnu.org> <20170506113848.12ce2bd7@arch_rig> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1494068576 19470 195.159.176.226 (6 May 2017 11:02:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 11:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Damian Chrzanowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 06 13:02:52 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6xUC-0004xJ-Bp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 13:02:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50855 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6xUH-0006vs-W5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 07:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6xU8-0006uk-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 07:02:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6xU5-0006zX-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 07:02:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6xU5-0006zR-H6; Sat, 06 May 2017 07:02:45 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2826 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1d6xU4-0008NL-Sk; Sat, 06 May 2017 07:02:45 -0400 In-reply-to: <20170506113848.12ce2bd7@arch_rig> (message from Damian Chrzanowski on Sat, 6 May 2017 11:38:48 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:214616 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 11:38:48 +0100 > From: Damian Chrzanowski > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > There is a new initiative > https://github.com/josteink/emacs-oob-reboot to revamp Emacs' defaults, > and make it more modern ! I've seen that project. It for now includes only a handful of non-default settings, so IMO it's still too early to judge whether these changes will satisfy enough users to make them the default. The crucial stage, which always comes sooner or later, is when some users want a certain value, while others want a different value. It is quite possible that, with enough user experience and feedback, some of these changes should be considered for the core. > One of the proposals (in terms of > attractiveness for new users) is the option to automatically setup > keybindings upon Emacs' first run. Where did you see that proposal? It isn't in the above URL. The Reddit discussion is very long, and I'm not sure which part of it are you alluding to.