From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32142: WG: 26.1; Problems with flyspell-region Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 18:44:00 +0300 Message-ID: <834lh1bz5r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <745366070.6138533.1531494673065.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <745366070.6138533.1531494673065@mail.yahoo.com> <83zhyuc45n.fsf@gnu.org> <1411313637.6317903.1531513379661@mail.yahoo.com> <83lgaeb6qk.fsf@gnu.org> <912664a1-96e1-1a91-7b86-97184cf62aaf@yahoo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531582994 9160 195.159.176.226 (14 Jul 2018 15:43:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 15:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 32142@debbugs.gnu.org To: "R. Diez" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 14 17:43:10 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1feMhR-0002Hb-9y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 17:43:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41722 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feMjY-0004V0-2W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54217) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feMjL-0004Uh-GY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feMjG-0001aR-Pv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feMjG-0001Zz-L0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1feMjG-0003vd-98 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 15:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32142 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 32142-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32142.153158304915025 (code B ref 32142); Sat, 14 Jul 2018 15:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32142) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2018 15:44:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60217 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1feMiP-0003uG-8M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34776) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1feMiM-0003tt-V4 for 32142@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:44:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feMiD-0000G6-10 for 32142@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1feMiC-0000Fu-Tk; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2941 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1feMiC-0003iP-B8; Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:43:56 -0400 In-reply-to: <912664a1-96e1-1a91-7b86-97184cf62aaf@yahoo.de> (rdiezmail-emacs@yahoo.de) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148524 Archived-At: > From: "R. Diez" > Cc: 32142@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 17:15:12 +0200 > > > I object to the "unable or unwilling" part of your complaint. > > I was just stating the fact that the feature you expected was > missing from Emacs, because no one designed and coded it. > > My "complaining" and your "stating of the fact" are both subjective > perceptions. No, a fact is not a subjective thing. > My point of view is as follows: I took several e-mails to fix (if only > in the documentation) an obvious issue I had reported correctly and I > had to insist. Your answers were selective, side-stepping the problem. > Your tend to answer in an authoritative way, kind of supporting or > defending the current implementation, or negating the existence of a > problem. It is a frustrating exercise. This is not the first time that > this kind of "resistance" happens to me with open source projects, or > with the Emacs developers. It is in fact a recurring pattern. What you perceive is "selective", "side-stepping", "authoritative", and "defensive" responses were just my attempts at understanding the issues in full, that's all. > I guess we could start a new bug about ispell, couldn't we? You could, yes.