From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37447: 26.3; Commands on and Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:36:24 +0300 Message-ID: <834l17tldj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8e473f5a-2582-7086-8bd8-da75c00607d5@gmail.com> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="247102"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 37447@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Sebastian Urban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 20 10:37:57 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEQN-0011zR-Vg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 10:37:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56364 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEQM-0001E1-3a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:37:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEPX-0000YX-Ky for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:37:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEPW-000231-KM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:37:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47928) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEPW-00022u-H2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEPW-0001fT-CL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37447.15689685866355 (code B ref 37447); Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2019 08:36:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56749 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEOw-0001eR-JS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:36:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36652) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEOv-0001eD-0B for 37447@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:36:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35370) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEOp-0001hJ-Pn; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:36:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4662 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iBEOp-00042P-45; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:36:19 -0400 In-reply-to: <8e473f5a-2582-7086-8bd8-da75c00607d5@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Fri, 20 Sep 2019 10:17:38 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:166749 Archived-At: > From: Sebastian Urban > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 10:17:38 +0200 > Cc: 37447@debbugs.gnu.org > > Also, there are "obsolete" functions that are removed after few > versions of Emacs, so why not do the same thing to key bindings? Because they are not "obsolete" by any measure. They are highly popular key bindings that I, FWIW, am using every day. And btw, I can never understand these arguments about changing what Emacs does by default. You can easily rebind the keys yourself, so why force your personal preferences on everyone else? > Keeping old key bindings forever(?), especially when user can change > them, is rather strange It's not strange, it's called stability.