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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: c4droid@foxmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:13:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <834kympy6y.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmc+7mVATXi_u5Gd5CydJQCxg5My+X38=jX3M665t4Pcw@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:34:44 +0100)

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:34:44 +0100
> Cc: Anonymous <c4droid@foxmail.com>, Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I think if we want to have an ELisp tutorial, it should be a separate
> > manual.  The current ELisp manual is a reference manual, and written
> > as such.
> 
> I fail to see why a reference manual can't also include examples.

I was talking about a tutorial, not about examples.

We already have examples in the ELisp manual, although it isn't
feasible to have an example for each possible use case.  We could add
more examples where the description is not self-explanatory enough,
but adding too much of them would be infeasible, I think, due to size
considerations.  We will have to consider that on a case by case
basis.

> I've had to search the web to understand how to use things before,
> even after having carefully read the relevant parts of the elisp
> manual and the doc string.

A better strategy is to search the Emacs tree, IME.

> To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we should mandate that we should
> include examples.  But I'd suggest to optionally add them where it
> makes sense, and possibly then only in the info version of the manual
> (since we lack space in the print edition).

We already have examples where we think it's useful.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-29 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29  9:05 Some ideas with Emacs Anonymous
2019-11-29 11:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-11-29 11:44   ` =?gb18030?B?QW5vbnltb3Vz?=
2019-11-30  5:54     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-30  5:51   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  5:57   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01 10:56     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 11:08       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 13:40         ` VanL
2019-12-01 14:07           ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02  4:52             ` VanL
2019-12-02  6:12               ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  5:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-03 15:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:21                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 17:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:59                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 19:51                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 19:32                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 19:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 23:08                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  3:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 18:29                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  8:39                     ` VanL
2019-12-03 23:12                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-06  6:51                       ` VanL
2019-12-06 20:13                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 23:58                           ` VanL
2019-12-02  5:41           ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-02 12:53             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 18:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 20:57                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 21:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 22:13                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 22:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 23:04                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  0:20                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 23:26                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  8:37                           ` VanL
2019-12-03 10:14                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 11:14                               ` VanL
2019-12-05  4:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-05  7:30                                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-06  4:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-07  2:21                                     ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-08  5:06                                     ` Librepay Richard Stallman
2019-12-08 12:10                                       ` Librepay VanL
2019-12-03  5:03                         ` Some ideas with Emacs Richard Stallman
2019-12-03  4:58               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-04  0:37                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 19:37                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-03  4:25                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 11:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-29 11:59   ` Anonymous
2019-11-29 12:31   ` Emacs: the Editor for the Next Forty Years (was Re: Some ideas with Emacs) Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-29 13:22   ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 13:34     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-29 13:56       ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-11-29 14:13       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-11-29 14:26         ` Anonymous
2019-11-30  3:51         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-12-01  3:14         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 15:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 18:58         ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:13           ` Adding examples in the doc (was: Some ideas with Emacs) Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 19:30             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-29 20:03             ` Adding examples in the doc Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:32           ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:09             ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:25                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  7:35                     ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-12-01 10:21                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01  6:19             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 21:42           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-11-30  0:12             ` João Távora
2019-12-01  6:48               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  0:44             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-30  7:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:51               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 18:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 19:44               ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 20:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 21:35                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  3:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  4:17                       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  4:48                         ` Yuan Fu
2019-12-02  4:53                           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02 15:57                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01 22:20                   ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 22:46                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:46             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  3:21           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:04         ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01  6:15           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:05     ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 15:43   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 16:04     ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-30 11:21   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  2:41     ` VanL
2019-12-01 18:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-01 18:36       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03  6:07 ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-06 18:30   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 19:18     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 20:14       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 21:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-06 21:26         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-07  2:13     ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-07  3:14       ` Drew Adams
2019-12-10 20:55       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-11  4:21         ` VanL

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