From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:47:55 +0200 Message-ID: <834k6jbdf8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <740A136F-8710-4F4C-BFC1-A3DB418447F4@gmail.com> <87zgoc7u6k.fsf@gmail.com> <83iluzbqcr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r19nxx7x.fsf@gmail.com> <838rvvbe8e.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27457"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 18:49:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4nvq-0006yH-LM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:49:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51836 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4nvp-0005s0-Ic for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35878) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4nua-0004PM-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:47:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=50998 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4nuY-0000Zd-BQ; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:47:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=leyn7CyC0HTM2AyKpfqEyUW/5Daq3QlM0J8y8y2UY1U=; b=QQJTKxs+V0Vs 0bOuCVzhbeR8ZLUIWgn+w2q1CPsZvKky81oIyHyb7nBG65CdsBpZ9HVe7f9i/ONDGlISBmsaq3V3B nUiZ9sYc+4hQuTy0/nO7/70ZDTioEUEVvSGFFB8E6Pfj7+nqwCEFw/iBNGEXbPISsvP60XA7c2r0Z s03UcU+IXslgwLCutP7KYNICs/1vycqAruxzdGRDf7FUorCumDp26lMkKkCvAu7+x6jGyC/JkKme9 65xloW83BiV+h2I8tuC9IFlM6DV38ACtjClh7KtJFwlPTvLKpPkenBiLlfunj+psrJlyMpqNfF3Pl hVqgaOK0BsxXFY1rUmfslw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1670 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4nuV-0005v8-W8; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:47:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez on Tue, 4 Jan 2022 18:35:19 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284185 Archived-At: > From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez > Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 18:35:19 +0100 > Cc: Robert Pluim , Drew Adams , > emacs-devel , Stefan Kangas > > If something is long-standing, I'd rather have it in init.el and leave custom.el for "experiments". > Wouldn't that make interacting with emacs more dynamic/attractive to new users? Robert's and mine concern in this case is about old users who have their customizations written to .emacs/init.el. We shouldn't move the customizations behind their backs.