From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Edebug corrupting point in buffers.
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2022 13:24:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <834jvd4pbd.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2QjqIJXCm/UCnSP@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Thu, 3 Nov 2022 20:25:12 +0000)
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 20:25:12 +0000
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
>
> > > > The node you added is very short, barely a dozen lines. It makes
> > > > little sense to have it separate from where edebug-save-windows is
> > > > described. So I think you should move it there. The location of the
> > > > node inside the manual's hierarchy is much less important than to have
> > > > the information pertaining to edebug-save-windows in a single place,
> > > > because no one reads the ELisp reference manual in its entirety. The
> > > > only thing we need to facilitate people finding this place is add good
> > > > index entries there.
>
> > > So you're proposing leaving the "The outside context" node incomplete,
> > > according to its clearly defined purpose, and therefore wrong? Why?
>
> > If you want, you can add a short sentence there about the issue, with
> > a cross-reference to where the issue is described in full.
>
> "There"? There is no suitable place to put such a link, other than my
> new node. Such a strategy would unbalance "The Outside Context" by
> having most of its contents in subsubsections, and the bit about point
> corruption at the other end of a link, in some random page.
>
> As a matter of interest, one of the other nodes under "The Outside
> Context", namely "Checking Whether to Stop" has just 13 lines.
>
> > This is how we organize our manuals: when some topic could be relevant
> > to more than one situation, we describe it in full in one place, and
> > have short references in all the others.
>
> We should describe it in the PRIMARY relevant place.
>
> > > Remember, this patch is not about edebug-save-windows. It's about point
> > > getting corrupted.
>
> > The index entries and the cross-references should solve this. And the
> > issue _is_ related to edebug-save-windows ....
>
> It is only tangentially related to edebug-save-windows. It is about
> point getting corrupted. An angry victim of this bug should be be able
> to find the description by searching for "corrupt".
>
> > .... and to the other similar option described in the same node. So
> > having all of this info there makes the description more
> > comprehensive.
>
> Yes, stuff about options belongs in the "Options" page. Stuff about
> point getting corrupted does not, except at the other end of a link.
Instead of continuing this endless argument, I prefer to fix this
myself, using your text where appropriate. Are you okay with that?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-05 11:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-31 11:43 Edebug corrupting point in buffers; we need buffer-point and set-buffer-point, perhaps Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-31 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 14:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-31 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 15:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-31 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 20:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 20:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 17:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 21:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 11:41 ` Edebug corrupting point in buffers Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 13:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 17:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 17:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 20:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 21:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 10:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-02 13:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 3:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 12:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 17:40 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-02 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 18:36 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-02 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 17:25 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-03 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 18:31 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-02 11:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-02 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 16:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-02 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 11:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 13:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 18:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 20:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-05 11:24 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-11-05 16:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-06 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 14:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 19:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-03 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-04 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-04 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 19:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 20:35 ` Stefan Monnier
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