From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61836: Align key bindings with world trend Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:50:44 +0200 Message-ID: <834jr7iay3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87edqba4h7.7.fsf@jidanni.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2464"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 61836-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dan Jacobson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 27 12:51:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc2F-0000Rj-Ni for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 12:51:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc24-0007PV-54; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:51:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc22-0007Mn-LX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc22-0008Lz-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc21-0003uR-Q2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:51:01 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 61836 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 61836@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Received: via spool by 61836-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D61836.167749865315009 (code D ref 61836); Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61836-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2023 11:50:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1t-0003u1-Im for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1p-0003tm-7Q for 61836-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1j-0008K6-NG; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=F26xRBTO82AYm+EB3wlgyTXj66RpOJ5FAnxasAjm6io=; b=jSJMRgMn6cA/ LAPjKkM0DU59DVXIsR3yDTL7JdCXFfPpzrL5fwn3KyN96+lhCWI6ig7cAXVx1kd0bAlITZmf2yq+6 p8VYS/sAQn3rIhvXO+xxeoWt+RgqBHZklHTZ801rEycWMa656S8bTZP+lTQDBcxRfXRuiyHcXQsX9 yrrVWGPoNQNOxydrcaL61ZThsOMfIt+8q2uH1I9YQ6YdLs09Apiu3YrX4lIURwsBnrkcBcQfqFkVz 4g3BMfV5dLKlJFvgMzEWp142YBUM9ysJ8aqDXhifTww6LM3mdNGpw+pIMqqnPweUG2S/KWvheEePL hE8+QBgIpUaHEP6+1DoThA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1i-0006W0-Tg; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87edqba4h7.7.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:37:40 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256872 Archived-At: > From: Dan Jacobson > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:37:40 +0800 > > https://stackoverflow.com/a/16001753/1118719 says the current bindings > are what God said to use. However it seems it might be best to have new > emacs users get on the bandwagon aligned with whatever is being used by > the majority of computer users... We have that for a long time: the arrow keys, with and without Ctrl, PgUp/PgDn, HOME and END, DELETE, Shift-INSERT, etc. etc. > But wait, that would be different than the shell too. OK never mind. Closing.