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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
Cc: 61925@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2023 12:19:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <834jr0byz0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c0bc5b9-4dad-993a-f0e8-5aebca46a52e@gmx.de> (message from Wolfgang Scherer on Fri, 3 Mar 2023 00:11:13 +0100)

tags 61925 notabug
thanks

> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 00:11:13 +0100
> From: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
> 
> The command `normal-mode' does not set file local variables, if a
> buffer does not have a `buffer-file-name'. This affects *scratch* and
> buffers created using `with-temp-buffer'.
> 
> The behavior changed at some time between Emacs version 20.5.2.2 and 20.6.3.
> See output from various Emacs versions further below.
> 
> If that was an intentional change, it should be prominently documented
> to avoid the confusion when examples do not work in a *scratch* buffer.

This was an intentional change, yes.

And AFAICT, it _is_ documented in the ELisp Reference manual:

 -- Command: normal-mode &optional find-file
     This function establishes the proper major mode and buffer-local
     variable bindings for the current buffer.  It calls ‘set-auto-mode’
     (see below).  As of Emacs 26.1, it no longer runs
     ‘hack-local-variables’, this now being done in ‘run-mode-hooks’ at
     the initialization of major modes (*note Mode Hooks::).

And the documentation of run-mode-hooks says:


 -- Function: run-mode-hooks &rest hookvars
     Major modes should run their mode hook using this function.  It is
     similar to ‘run-hooks’ (*note Hooks::), but it also runs
     ‘change-major-mode-after-body-hook’, ‘hack-local-variables’ (when
     the buffer is visiting a file) (*note File Local Variables::)  ^^^^
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The user manual indeed didn't mention this caveat; I've now mentioned
that aspect there (and also in the doc strings of the relevant
functions).

(The change in Emacs 26 that caused this as a side effect was to fix
bug#15577 and bug#23407.)

> I would even recommend a warning prompt in normal-mode, when called
> interactively.

I think such a warning could be an annoyance.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-04 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-02 23:11 bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer) Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-03-05  4:58   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-05  5:03   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-06  2:07   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2024-01-10 11:08   ` Stefan Kangas

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