From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: @dircategory (Re: Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2024 09:32:46 +0200 Message-ID: <834jfpsin5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837cknvkrx.fsf@gnu.org> <83a5piu1y3.fsf@gnu.org> <3BA42BAC-B6D2-4531-BDC2-D8037E7038F7@traductaire-libre.org> <83wmsmsjbt.fsf@gnu.org> <83il46ryx6.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6056"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gavinsmith0123@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, help-texinfo@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 07 08:33:19 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-help-texinfo2@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rMNeo-0001JJ-Cf for gnu-help-texinfo2@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 08:33:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMNeY-0006QL-Sz; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 02:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMNeX-0006Q1-6h; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 02:33:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMNeW-0005wu-0P; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 02:33:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=wscrwQtnse7zgKEx6HpGuq4w9/q0LLEh6pHvw3LVxrg=; b=fp7POATtXf99 VOAftvb14X6+WST7jgznQQuFOGhL8vcFk5Vjnqe0ZO588eZbORwufNCX23R8GnyGI12mU2ELj3/qz 14R9XgBTrviXz19fEXtkDnjZJ0cTCsr/+d4s04wV6id+VIlLZcG67tAvxR3wduoJPRaw5BXC8UpIQ CLw61Rbc8+aKql7mUBUqO99f2NmKcoKeKBPxZbFgtd+abrj1PqZdUzSzjax3Le56DXc3ulv1h+iSe gG+ASo+CHljfFV9j4n1I3mUkJPJfb/wa0VmB7sll9WwyCgb51L8bljkFTlugASGz9j8hPhmflzISl FD5/HBxYWr9RM9LswMuPiA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Sun, 07 Jan 2024 05:38:51 +0000) X-BeenThere: help-texinfo@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the Texinfo documentation system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.general:3397 gmane.emacs.devel:314671 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2024 05:38:51 +0000 > From: Jean-Christophe Helary > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com, vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, help-texinfo@gnu.org > > >> Do you mean that a translated manual should have an @anchor for each > >> @node, where nodes have translated names and the anchors give their > >> original names in English? > > > > Yes, exactly. > > As far as the Emacs manuals are concerned, could that be generalized to > English manuals as well, so that translators don't have to add > directives to the code and just have to modify the @node? I'd object this. Those anchors serve no purpose in the English document, and adding them in a translation is almost trivial. I also don't know what would having a @node and an @anchor by the same name cause to Info readers, and I'd rather not check.