From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changes in lisp/Makefile.in to skip preloaded files
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:42:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <833a5woo3g.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buovdiskgsw.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com>
> From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
> Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:33:35 +0900
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> > P.S. I generally find any Make or shell/Sed trickery misplaced in
> > Emacs Makefiles, since we have the full power of Emacs at our
> > fingertips. Portability is one obvious advantage, but more
> > importantly, it sounds right, in the context of building Emacs, to use
> > Emacs itself wherever we can. Otherwise, we appear as not believing
> > in the tool we are developing. Don't you agree?
>
> Well, of course that's only true if a built emacs is available at the
> point of invocation.
Agreed. In the case in point, Emacs _is_ available, since we generate
loaddefs.el by running Emacs.
> Also, the elisp code to do a given text munging job is often quite a
> bit longer, because sed is designed specifically to do certain tasks
> very concisely.
Granted, if you switch tools, you frequently need to think about a
different solution, more in line with the spirit of the tools you
switch to. That's what I did in the two suggested alternatives.
IOW, Sed is used here to produce a list of files, and there's more
than just the Sed way of doing that. If we are to use Emacs, we need
to do it the Emacs way.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-06 9:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <E1Mv3iq-0005oI-5L@monty-python.gnu.org>
2009-10-06 7:44 ` Changes in lisp/Makefile.in to skip preloaded files Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-06 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-06 9:33 ` Miles Bader
2009-10-06 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-10-06 10:14 ` Miles Bader
2009-10-06 13:12 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-06 13:45 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-06 16:20 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-06 16:50 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-06 15:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-06 16:16 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-06 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-07 3:00 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-07 7:23 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-07 9:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-07 10:00 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-07 16:16 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-08 23:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-10-08 23:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-08 23:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-10-09 0:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-09 0:04 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-09 0:25 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-09 11:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-10-10 0:50 ` ignoring autoloads in preloaded files on Windows [was Re: Changes in lisp/Makefile.in to skip preloaded files] Glenn Morris
2009-10-10 2:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-10 3:34 ` ignoring autoloads in preloaded files on Windows Glenn Morris
2009-10-10 3:57 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-10 4:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-10 4:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-10 5:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-10 7:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-13 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-15 6:14 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-10 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 11:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-10 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 21:17 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-11 2:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-11 2:36 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-11 2:44 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-11 3:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-11 14:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-07 9:57 ` Changes in lisp/Makefile.in to skip preloaded files Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-07 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
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