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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should Emacs provide a uuid function?
Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 14:35:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8339kojecz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8739kocfjt.fsf@lifelogs.com>

> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
> Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 05:51:50 -0500
> 
> On Mon, 09 May 2011 10:23:06 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: 
> 
> EZ> Feh.  Using platform-dependent interfaces in Lisp is not the Emacs
> EZ> way, in my book.  How about a primitive which would read from
> EZ> /dev/random or /dev/urandom if they are available, or use other
> EZ> methods if they are not?
> ...
> EZ> This all will be avoided if we instead provide a primitive that will
> EZ> both hide system-dependent stuff and avoid the need to teach
> EZ> insert-file-contents about this special device.
> 
> GnuTLS has facilities for this, using /dev/*random and the Yarrow
> algorithm from libnettle.  Look at lib/nettle/rnd.c
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=gnutls.git;a=tree;f=lib/nettle;hb=HEAD
> for the `do_trivia_source' and `do_device_source' functions.

Yes, I meant to use on Windows the 2 APIs that rnd.c uses.

> Since GnuTLS is enabled by default in Emacs 24 maybe we can rely on that
> functionality instead of writing it anew?

It is enabled, but it isn't guaranteed to be present.  It isn't a good
idea, IMO, to have features unrelated to gnutls depend on it being
available.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-09 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-15  4:59 Should Emacs provide a uuid function? Leo
2011-04-24 20:43 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-25  3:37   ` Leo
2011-04-25  4:37     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-25  7:21       ` Ken Raeburn
2011-04-25  8:45         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-25  9:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 10:33             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-25 12:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-28 15:11           ` Ken Raeburn
2011-04-29  3:47             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-30  8:00               ` Ken Raeburn
2011-04-30 18:39                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-30 22:22                   ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-01  9:06                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-30 13:32               ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-30 13:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 19:52         ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-28 15:11           ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-09  6:29           ` Leo
2011-05-09  7:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 10:51               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 11:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-05-09 11:36                 ` Leo
2011-05-09 14:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 14:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 15:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 17:03                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 19:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:09                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 15:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:27                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:42                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:53                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-09 15:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 15:59                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-09 17:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 17:45                     ` joakim
2011-05-09 17:50                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-10 14:03                         ` Jason Rumney
2011-05-30 17:22                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-26 21:06 Ben Key
2011-04-26 21:16 Ben Key
2011-04-26 22:51 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-27  3:43   ` Leo

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