From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10919: emacs-mule/utf-8 difference Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:54:48 +0200 Message-ID: <83399scil3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4F4F984D.2000901@inria.fr> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1330624459 8451 80.91.229.3 (1 Mar 2012 17:54:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10919-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tiphaine Turpin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 01 18:54:17 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ACk-0008Uj-El for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:54:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50245 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ACj-0007xo-Un for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:54:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44209) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ACg-0007wH-A8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:54:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ACd-0007Rk-NJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:54:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50945) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ACd-0007Rb-Jm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:54:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ACY-0006ug-G7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:54:02 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 10919 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 10919@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by 10919-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D10919.133062440126525 (code D ref 10919); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10919-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2012 17:53:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ABt-0006tc-3X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:53:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:57894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S3ABf-0006sx-Et for 10919-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:53:08 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M0700300W7HC200@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 10919-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:52:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.20.191]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M07002ARWBQKCJ0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:52:39 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <4F4F984D.2000901@inria.fr> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:57425 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:39:57 +0100 > From: Tiphaine Turpin > > From emacs-devel: > > "The byte sequence of a buffer after decoded is always in emacs-mule (in > emacs-unicode-2 branch, it's utf-8). This is very old info. The emacs-unicode-2 branch was merged with the mainline when Emacs 23.1 was released. > So, changing > buffer-file-coding-system or any other coding-system-related variables > doesn't affects position-bytes." > > However, this is not the case with 3bytes utf8 characters: > position-bytes counts them as 3 bytes, but process-send-string wirtes 4 > bytes. process-send-string _encodes_ the string, it does not send the internal representation of the string in the buffer. Using process-send-string is like writing the string to a disk file: Emacs encodes it before sending or writing. Therefore, buffer-file-coding-system _does_ affect what is being sent. I'm closing this non-bug.