From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12430: Glitches caused by addition of psec to timers Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:44:48 +0300 Message-ID: <83392kvhv3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <50517770.6080207@cs.ucla.edu> <83wqzxvp0x.fsf@gnu.org> <83mx0tunby.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347630323 14015 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2012 13:45:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 12430@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 15:45:24 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWCt-00066J-5b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:45:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51447 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWCp-00056l-Dq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:45:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWCk-00054j-0i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:45:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWCf-00043W-Q0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51952) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWCf-00040d-GO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWDa-00019h-E5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12430 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 12430-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12430.13476303384409 (code B ref 12430); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12430) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2012 13:45:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33264 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWD8-000190-HU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:45:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:47462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCWD5-00018s-J9 for 12430@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:45:32 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MAC00A00DUACO00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 12430@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:44:32 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MAC00A7SE68D700@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:44:32 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64282 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 12430@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:18:47 -0400 > > > I will remember that when I write a hard-realtime application in > > Emacs Lisp. > > Nanoseconds are real. Think about it: if the eldoc timer is always late > by a nanosecond each time, over your whole lifetime this might add up to > your wasting a measurable amount of your life waiting unnecessarily. > Do you really want to die cursing those wasted nanoseconds? > I didn't think so, If you studied the various OSes and worked with hard realtime programs as much as I did, you wouldn't bet your life on the precision of their timers.