From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:40:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83390k0wgy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a9uvv6ng.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bof9s7cl.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <874nl0ov8g.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <20635.63115.874182.168553@winooski.ccs.neu.edu> <87liecnelf.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352400039 14201 80.91.229.3 (8 Nov 2012 18:40:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dan@haxney.org, eli@barzilay.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dmoncayo@gmail.com, stephen@xemacs.org To: Nix Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 08 19:40:48 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TWX1y-0006dr-4H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:40:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50339 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWX1p-0005Sz-0b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:40:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46849) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWX1i-0005SV-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:40:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWX1h-0004Ho-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:40:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:43737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWX1g-0004HU-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:40:29 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MD600700M6XIZ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:40:26 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MD6006KOMJD3LT0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:40:26 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87liecnelf.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154746 Archived-At: > From: Nix > Emacs: it's all fun and games, until somebody tries to edit a file. > Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:18:04 +0000 > Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , > Emacs development discussions , > Daniel Hackney , Stefan Monnier , > Dani Moncayo > > Yes, you have to do it like that. Point is always on-screen: this > assumption is wired into all sorts of places and can never change. This is false. An easy demonstration is this: emacs -Q C-x 3 M-< M-x set-variable RET auto-hscroll RET nil RET C-e