From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15029: 24.3; feature-request: add window-focus-lost-hook Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:37:29 +0300 Message-ID: <8338qjtiva.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20130805232148.b0f8363e1c2ab7279f873bee@gmx.com> <71bo58am8s.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83txj0t92k.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376033898 1699 80.91.229.3 (9 Aug 2013 07:38:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15029@debbugs.gnu.org, dmol@gmx.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 09 09:38:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hH9-0004L3-1S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:38:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34668 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hH8-0007uc-Go for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:38:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hH0-0007uT-Kg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hGt-0007kS-FB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:38:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hGt-0007kL-BU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hGr-0006qy-Mp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:38:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15029 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15029-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15029.137603385626296 (code B ref 15029); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15029) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2013 07:37:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hGR-0006q1-7n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:57364) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V7hGM-0006ph-Vj for 15029@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:37:32 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MR900J006GD2900@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15029@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:37:13 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MR900IHK6I1MN80@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:37:13 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:77125 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 22:38:17 -0400 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: rgm@gnu.org, 15029@debbugs.gnu.org, dmol@gmx.com > > [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider > [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, > [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. > > I think that ship sailed a long time ago. E.g., moving the mouse > pointer from one frame to another erases the echo area on the former > and displays the same message in the latter. > > That happens at a level below Lisp code, so it should not interact > with anything. It certainly interacts with the display engine, so it does belong to the broad class of problems that you are worried about: it makes it harder to debug Emacs. In addition, redisplay can potentially run Lisp.