From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15991: 24.3.50; Wishlist: Make test suite user-friendlier Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:00:04 +0300 Message-ID: <8338eqq4d7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pppk8f91.fsf@gnu.org> <8361jnpq0j.fsf@gnu.org> <53AD0515.3050600@easy-emacs.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403848885 27947 80.91.229.3 (27 Jun 2014 06:01:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 06:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15991@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 27 08:01:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PDp-0006uR-Ve for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:01:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48143 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PDp-0008Jf-6U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34078) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PDh-0008Ig-3B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PDa-0005ZP-RT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PDa-0005ZL-On for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PDa-0006H4-8R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 06:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15991 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15991-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15991.140384882924051 (code B ref 15991); Fri, 27 Jun 2014 06:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15991) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2014 06:00:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34207 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PD2-0006Fp-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:00:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:36041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X0PCy-0006FS-Kg for 15991@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:00:25 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N7T00K00CBHKP00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15991@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:00:18 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N7T00K2LCOH8670@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:00:18 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <53AD0515.3050600@easy-emacs.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:90878 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:45:57 +0200 > From: Andreas Röhler > > >> I guess it would be OK, if $GDB could be set to "gdb --args". Thanks. > > > > Could you do it? :) > > I confess I don't know quite where you want it to go... > > testing and debugging are quite different things. > IMO it's not a good idea mixing these. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. When a test fails, don't you want to debug Emacs to understand why and find a solution? So yes, testing and debugging are different things, but when a test fails, one frequently needs to debug Emacs.