From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22613: 25.1.50; dired-aux missing require 'cl-lib Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:00:58 +0200 Message-ID: <8337sw5w2t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mvr4663j.fsf@gnu.org> <87twlcvfxu.fsf@web.de> <83lh6o640c.fsf@gnu.org> <871t8ginzx.fsf@web.de> <83bn7k5zln.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpq8h5f8.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455387442 31223 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2016 18:17:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: f92capac@gmail.com, 22613@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 13 19:17:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeko-00017G-DK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:17:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43949 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUekn-00036j-MF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:17:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35205) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUekj-00036Y-8p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:17:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUekf-00032V-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47504) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUekf-00032R-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:17:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUekf-0000bF-Nq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:17:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22613 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22613-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22613.14553874012267 (code B ref 22613); Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:17:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22613) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2016 18:16:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38279 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUekL-0000aV-KW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:16:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUekK-0000aI-0k for 22613@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:16:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeV8-00083l-HI for 22613@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58784) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeV8-00083C-4R; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:00:58 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1375 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeV7-0008Js-5i; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:00:57 -0500 In-reply-to: <87wpq8h5f8.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:43:39 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112980 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: f92capac@gmail.com, 22613@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:43:39 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Sorry, I'm confused: what does package.el have to do with this issue, > > and what do you mean by "a built-in package" in this context? > > I mean: in the package manager, cl-lib is listed as "built-in" package. > And packages also have autoloads. So maybe the autoload definition for > cl-mapcan we didn't understand why it is dloaded at all comes from the > package mechanism. Just speculating. Could be. But what bothers me is that Emacs _knows_ it's autoloaded, and from which file, but it cannot autoload it. That shouldn't happen, no matter where did the knowledge come from. Right?