From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 1) (elisp) `Advising Named Functions', 2) search filtering example Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:15:02 +0300 Message-ID: <8337jsx3tl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5a44a850-e4fc-4c9f-a266-c74766810ba1@default> <1807679d-1125-4afe-81b7-b8d8e78aa2c6@default> <9f1cf1a7-6f05-449a-a4a2-c013cf326e9c@default> <6c7a705c-c810-49ec-a70c-376ba150205e@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476857768 13369 195.159.176.226 (19 Oct 2016 06:16:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 06:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 19 08:16:04 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwkAI-0001JL-5T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:15:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45757 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwkAK-0008Lh-DD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:15:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40239) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwk9x-0008Bn-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwk9s-00070a-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:15:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47038) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwk9s-00070J-Lu; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:15:24 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2298 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bwk9k-00010S-Le; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:15:17 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:47:35 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208455 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:47:35 -0400 > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > - a very generic sense, which refers to some kind of way to influence > > the behavior of something. > > Is there anything in our manuals that encourages this conflicting sense > of the word? Most probably, because "hook" is a general-purpose word freely used in general discourse. I don't see how can we avoid that without having complicated confusing text in the manual. I think Stefan didn't mention one more meaning of "hook" that is specific to Emacs: it is sometimes used in reference to the function that gets placed on the list that is the value of a hook variable. (Actually, to my mind, this is the only situation where something should be called "a hook".)