From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Emacs 25.3 released Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:34:26 +0300 Message-ID: <83377qpszx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wp55t0un.fsf@petton.fr> <87r2vctasb.fsf@petton.fr> <87mv60t6sk.fsf@petton.fr> <837ex4q6uy.fsf@gnu.org> <87tw07rqqg.fsf@petton.fr> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1505313330 31576 195.159.176.226 (13 Sep 2017 14:35:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, rostislav.svoboda@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nicolas Petton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 13 16:35:24 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ds8l6-00081i-Su for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:35:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42851 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ds8lE-0007lz-8j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40827) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ds8kQ-0007kl-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:34:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ds8kM-00068b-5d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46623) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ds8kM-00068S-2N; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:34:34 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3393 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ds8kK-0003D8-Te; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:34:33 -0400 In-reply-to: <87tw07rqqg.fsf@petton.fr> (message from Nicolas Petton on Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:40:23 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218187 Archived-At: > From: Nicolas Petton > Cc: rostislav.svoboda@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:40:23 +0200 > > > It's all about trust. And especially in the context of security, trust > > is the most important thing. > > First, if I'm not being trusted with the release tarballs, somebody else > can build them next time. I trust you, Nicolas. An important aspect of free software that people tend to forget is that whoever does the job gets to choose the tools, and as long as the end result is good (and in this case it is more than that), that's their prerogative. Letting someone do important job, let alone service to the community, and then criticizing them for the tools they've chosen, is at least unfair. Nicolas volunteered for the job when no one else would. Let's be grateful, and let's see the 99% full part of the glass. If we don't support our volunteers, we have no future.