From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Towards a WYSIWYG word processing (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:05:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83371appyw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d10freh8.fsf@gnu.org> <83d10epu31.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520521463 31299 195.159.176.226 (8 Mar 2018 15:04:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, johnw@gnu.org, daniele@grinta.net, rms@gnu.org, john@yates-sheets.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 08 16:04:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etx5e-0007ze-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 16:04:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39517 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etx7f-0003UN-C1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 10:06:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etx7S-0003RW-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 10:06:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etx7R-0001Ek-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 10:06:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60787) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etx7L-0001BQ-Lm; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 10:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3873 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1etx75-0006Lz-UT; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 10:05:48 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Yuri Khan on Thu, 8 Mar 2018 21:35:49 +0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223502 Archived-At: > From: Yuri Khan > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 21:35:49 +0700 > Cc: John Yates , John Wiegley , > Daniele Nicolodi , rms@gnu.org, Emacs developers > > * Office-like applications do not make you very aware of styles. Trust me, I'm aware of my styles. > * Your lexicon of styles is poorly designed, that you use one style > where you need two or more. That could be, because Someone Else (TM) designed them. But I don't think the number of styles is the problem, more likely their relations. > > So I prefer applying styles by hand, locally wherever I need that. It > > works wonders on my productivity. > > How big are your documents, how long-lived are they, and are they part > of a bigger collection that needs to be consistently formatted? Quite large (up to hundreds of pages), quite long-lived (years), and usually maintained all the time. > Otherwise I’d have the opposite problem of having to do the same > change in too many places and never being sure I got them all. I never need to change the style, because I consistently use the same styles in all the documents.